徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-21 20:04

<P><FONT size=5>哈哈!看看我是不是信书!只是不尽信书!</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=5>祝大家快乐!</FONT></P>

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-21 21:50

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<P><FONT size=5>“也”,喻纽开口三等歌部;“曳”,喻纽开口三等月部。</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=5>(以前,有人将“也”归入“鱼”部,现在来看,还是归入“歌”部好。)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=5>哦,我又不尽信书了!</FONT></P><p>[此主题已被 徐伯鸿 在 2011-4-21 14:06:39 编辑过]

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-22 04:55

<P><FONT size=5><FONT face=宋体>我在37楼说过“<SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; LETTER-SPACING: 0.4pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">會</SPAN></FONT></FONT><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">匜”可能与管状流的匜及带盖槽形流的匜有关。我以为管状流的匜只所以把流做成管状,这种流与賸匜这个槽形流的匜加盖后它的流的功用一样。</SPAN></SPAN></P><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">
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<P><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">我信你可信的,你不信我不可信的,这样便于讨论!</SPAN></SPAN></P><p>[此主题已被 徐伯鸿 在 2011-4-21 21:03:10 编辑过]

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-22 05:28

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<P><FONT face=宋体 size=5>匜的管状流,其实就是在槽形流上加了个“盖”发展来的。故谓之“<SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; LETTER-SPACING: 0.4pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">會</SPAN>”。</FONT></P>
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徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-22 05:36

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<P><FONT face=宋体 size=5>东姬匜<?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p></o:p>前端有短流,<STRONG>上有流盖</STRONG>,(<FONT size=4><STRONG><FONT size=5>會曳</FONT></STRONG>(<STRONG><FONT size=5>匜</FONT></STRONG>)</FONT>)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=宋体><FONT size=4>春秋中后期 东姬匜<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 金文宋體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt"><FONT size=4>通高10、通长22、口宽10厘米,重0.9公斤。<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 金文宋體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt"><FONT size=4>口作扁桃形,前端有短流,<STRONG>上有流盖</STRONG>,后有龙头环形鋬,深腹平底,下有三矮足。口沿下饰垂鳞纹一周,下加绹索纹。<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 金文宋體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt"><FONT size=4>铭文字数,内底铸铭文37字(其中重文2)。<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 金文宋體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt"><FONT size=4>铭文释文为隹(唯)王正月初吉乙亥,宣王之孙,□(雍)自之子东姬,自乍(作)<STRONG>會曳</STRONG>(<STRONG>匜</STRONG>),其□□厉(眉寿万)年无諆(期),子子孙孙永宝用之</FONT>。</SPAN></P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 金文宋體; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ansi-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt"><o:p>
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徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-22 22:21

<P><FONT size=5>下寺M1出土,流上<STRONG>有盖</STRONG>。</FONT></P>
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徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-22 23:02

<FONT size=5>有的自名<SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&#39;; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><STRONG>會曳(</STRONG></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><STRONG>匜)</STRONG>的槽形流<SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">匜,出土时无盖,但它的口沿内侧有好几个<STRONG>安放器盖隼头的凹槽</STRONG>,说明它本来是有盖的。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>

jnezyyf 发表于 2011-4-27 01:42

初读此铭文亦有不妥,释"酋关"之文当为"尊",甚确,向王子扬以及以上讨论的诸位致谢!

小狐 发表于 2011-4-27 08:00

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<DIV class=detail_author>曹錦炎先生的大作《彭射銅器銘文補釋》——</DIV>
<DIV class=detail_author><A href="http://www.bsm.org.cn/show_article.php?id=1466">http://www.bsm.org.cn/show_article.php?id=1466</A></DIV></DIV>
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徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-27 19:44

<P><FONT size=5>若将“会”字读为“浍(沬)”,把它放到</FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">工虞季生<SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">匜</SPAN></SPAN>的“乍(作)其盥</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">會</SPAN><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">匜”中,就读不通了。</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&#39;"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><FONT color=#000000>&nbsp; <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥">工虞季生</SPAN>乍(作)其盥<SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">會</SPAN><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">匜<FONT size=4>(<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥"><FONT size=4>工虞季生</FONT><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><FONT size=4>匜</FONT>)(<STRONG>铭文九个字</STRONG>)</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&#39;"><o:p><FONT color=#000000><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥"><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><STRONG>盥<SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">會</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><STRONG>匜</STRONG>,<SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&#39;"><o:p><FONT color=#000000><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><FONT size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: ˎ̥; mso-hansi-font-family: ˎ̥"><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">盥指功用,<SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">會指器形。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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