小狐 发表于 2011-4-19 00:14

<P>據臾、曳一字分化之說:“臾”字中間的“人”形寫成一捺加一撇,分化出“曳”,以與“臾”形相區別,</P>
<P>(進一步的解釋就是:)——這一撇,因爲處於兩手之間,不好舒展開來,便收縮筆劃而成一點,這不就是很好的解釋麼~</P>
<P>而“遺”字另有來源,字形似乎不必強爲牽合在一起哦~(當然,俺也是看到彭射器銘文之後才敢這麼說滴~<IMG src="http://www.gwz.fudan.edu.cn/Editor/Emotion/1.gif">~)</P>

劉洪濤 发表于 2011-4-19 03:08

這個字也見唐子仲瀕兒匜,何琳儀先生有專文考釋,見《考古》2007年第1期。<p>[此主题已被 劉洪濤 在 2011-4-18 19:10:29 编辑过]

小狐 发表于 2011-4-19 08:00

<P>以上在下所發的諸帖皆可廢矣~<IMG src="http://www.gwz.fudan.edu.cn/Editor/Emotion/49.gif">~</P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; MARGIN: 0cm 1.25pt 0pt 0cm; mso-para-margin-right: .12gd; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体" lang=EN-US><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><FONT size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 1.25pt 0pt 39pt; mso-para-margin-right: .12gd; mso-para-margin-top: 0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom: .0001pt; mso-para-margin-left: 39.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 39.0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体" lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore"><FONT size=3>1、</FONT><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><FONT size=3>释<SPAN lang=EN-US>E</SPAN>为“盥”【<SPAN lang=EN-US>15</SPAN>】。<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 1.25pt 0pt 39pt; mso-para-margin-right: .12gd; mso-para-margin-top: 0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom: .0001pt; mso-para-margin-left: 39.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 39.0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体" lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore"><FONT size=3>2、</FONT><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><FONT size=3>释<SPAN lang=EN-US>E</SPAN>为“殄”,释<SPAN lang=EN-US>F </SPAN>为从“皿”从“申”,均读“巹”,相当“瓢”【<SPAN lang=EN-US>16</SPAN>】。<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; MARGIN: 0cm 1.25pt 0pt 0cm; mso-para-margin-right: .12gd; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体" lang=EN-US>3</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">、释<SPAN lang=EN-US>B</SPAN>、<SPAN lang=EN-US>C</SPAN>、<SPAN lang=EN-US>D</SPAN>为“臾”,认为“臾、匜同声,可通。”【<SPAN lang=EN-US>17</SPAN>】<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; MARGIN: 0cm 1.25pt 0pt 0cm; mso-para-margin-right: .12gd; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体" lang=EN-US>4</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">、释<SPAN lang=EN-US>E</SPAN>为从“皿”从“臾”,是“匜”的异体,认为“也”、“臾”均属喻纽,可以通用【<SPAN lang=EN-US>18</SPAN>】。<SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN: 0cm 1.25pt 0pt 39pt; mso-para-margin-right: .12gd; mso-para-margin-top: 0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom: .0001pt; mso-para-margin-left: 39.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 39.0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体" lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore"><FONT size=3>&nbsp;5、</FONT><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><FONT size=3>释<SPAN lang=EN-US>A</SPAN>——<SPAN lang=EN-US>F</SPAN>为“贵”,读“沫”【<SPAN lang=EN-US>19</SPAN>】。</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><FONT size=3>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -37.5pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 37.5pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 37.5pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt" lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore"><FONT face="Times New Roman">【15】<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">容</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt" lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Ro

小狐 发表于 2011-4-19 08:00

<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; MARGIN: 0cm 1.25pt 0pt 0cm; mso-para-margin-right: .12gd; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><FONT size=3>又:&nbsp; 商周文字“臾”本从“&nbsp; ”(双手),从“人”,会双手拖人之意。《说文》小篆“臾”和“曵”的形体都反映了这一点:……<SPAN lang=EN-US><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>

小狐 发表于 2011-4-19 08:00

<P>彭射器的字形,不過進一步證明了上說的可信罷了~</P>

小狐 发表于 2011-4-19 08:00

<P><FONT size=3>24樓的劉兄可贊同25樓jiaguwen兄的看法呢?~<IMG src="http://www.gwz.fudan.edu.cn/Editor/Emotion/2.gif">~</FONT></P>

金滕 发表于 2011-4-19 18:06

<SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">其实“</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">彭子射匜</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">”的</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">匜</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">字写法也不是第一次出现,如</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">《集录》</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun">1021</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">“</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">东姬匜</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">”</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">去掉底下的</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">“</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">又</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">”</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">旁便与</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font

金滕 发表于 2011-4-19 18:18

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 1.25pt 0pt 39pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 200%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-para-margin-right: .12gd; mso-para-margin-top: 0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom: .0001pt; mso-para-margin-left: 39.0pt; tab-stops: list 39.0pt; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 200%; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體"><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">是不是一定是</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">“</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">曳</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">”,目前还说不死</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">。</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">蔡子匜的写法</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">是经过小狐兄反转后才与</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">“</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">曳</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">”相近,它的正常写法二</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">“</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">又</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">”形在下,如何能有抴人的意思呢?假若承认</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blac

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-20 05:04

<P><FONT face=宋体><FONT size=5>彭射墓中的<SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">匜,就是管状流。</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=宋体><FONT size=5><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">
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<P><FONT face=宋体><FONT size=5><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">彭射墓随葬品</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-20 06:11

<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; LETTER-SPACING: 0.4pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; LETTER-SPACING: 0.4pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">蔡子佗</SPAN><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">匜,这个<SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">匜槽形流,本来应该是有盖的。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; LETTER-SPACING: 0.4pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; LETTER-SPACING: 0.4pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">蔡子佗自作</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; LETTER-SPACING: 0.4pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">會</SPAN><SPAN class=diczx1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">匜</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&#39;"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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