小狐 发表于 2011-4-17 19:00

<FONT size=3>淅川青銅器與此彭射青銅器皆出河南，其它用“曳”作“匜”者亦可知爲南方所出，故此器物自名顯然有地域方言的因素在其中吧~</FONT>

周慧珍 发表于 2011-4-17 20:56

學習了<IMG src="http://www.guwenzi.com/Editor/Emotion/2.gif">

雨无正 发表于 2011-4-18 08:00

彭子射匜自名“會貴/遺”當讀為“沬匜”。參照以鄧匜銘文就可以解決釋讀了。

雨无正 发表于 2011-4-18 08:00

<DIV class=upfilea>下面鏈接是我對這兩個自名的看法，由於忙著寫小文，沒有來得及瀏覽網站，所以有些網友點出的意見，沒有來得及稱引，抱歉！</DIV>
<DIV class=upfilea>&nbsp;<A TARGET=_blank HREF=UpFile/UpAttachment/2011-4/201141810399.doc><img border=0 onload=javascript:DrawImage(this); src=images/affix.gif>南陽出土彭射銅器銘文補釋.doc</A></DIV><p>［此主题已被 雨无正 在 2011-4-18 10:39:12 编辑过］

金滕 发表于 2011-4-18 08:00

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雨无正 发表于 2011-4-18 18:43

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徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-4-18 19:49

<P><FONT size=5></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P><FONT size=5>雨无正说得对！所谓“彭射之酉关”，乃是“彭射之尊”。</FONT></P>

小狐 发表于 2011-4-18 23:49

看來資料工作沒做足就談看法的不止在下一個人哦，心裡有點釋然啦~<IMG src="http://www.gwz.fudan.edu.cn/Editor/Emotion/1.gif">~

小狐 发表于 2011-4-18 23:55

<P>將所有的“匜”類自名放在一起合觀的話，如果字釋爲“遺（貴）”，</P>
<P>那麼，蔡子匜的那個字形怎麼解釋呢？</P>
<P>翻轉之後，可與甲骨文中的字形聯繫起來呵：</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>所以，俺還是認爲陳漢平先生的說法是正確滴~</P>

小狐 发表于 2011-4-18 23:59

<P>一雙手，一個人，怎麼能會得“遺”之類的意思呢？</P>
<P>而“拽”字正好形、音、義皆合（即便與蔡子匜也可聯繫），而且彭射銅器字形明明是“曳”字無疑嚒~</P>
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