倚石山房 发表于 2011-3-5 01:23

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倚石山房 发表于 2011-3-5 01:24

谢谢

张铉济南 发表于 2011-3-5 04:50

只知道是秦国的戈，此种文字不类篆隶，较为独特，信口胡言。

战国时代 发表于 2011-3-5 05:17

<P>战国韩戈</P>
<P>二年某令栾土右库工师艺灰冶图造</P>

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-3-6 01:54

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<P><FONT size=5>战国先生释文有据！</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=5>二年（某）命栾土右库工师[][]<IMG src="UpFile/UpAttachment/2011-3/201135175441gwcgdmozdelto_jx!ojbz776-.jpg" onload=javascript:DrawImage(this); border=0>(冶)[]造</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=5>例如：五年郑命韩司寇张朱右库工师[]高冶君需造</FONT></P>
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倚石山房 发表于 2011-3-6 05:45

谢谢诸位老师！

沈之傑 发表于 2011-3-8 06:18

看来“艺（木土犬）”姓也见于韩兵。<p>［此主题已被 沈之傑 在 2011-3-7 22:29:21 编辑过］

梅军 发表于 2011-4-29 08:00

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金滕 发表于 2011-4-29 18:38

<blockquote><img border=0 src=images/icon-quote.gif> <b>沈之傑:</b><br>看来“艺（木土犬）”姓也见于韩兵。
<P>［此主题已被 沈之傑 在 2011-3-7 22:29:21 编辑过］</blockquote>
<P><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">此字左旁是三晋常见的“埶”，写作（木</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun"><FONT face=新細明體>/</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">土），但是右旁并非“犬”，可以比对三晋“犬”字。又战国老大所谓“图”字是如何看出来的？形体似乎比较接近三晋桥形布“尚</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun"><FONT face=新細明體>/</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-CN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體">当”的写法。</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>

沈之傑 发表于 2011-4-29 19:49

右旁不是“犬”，那是什么呢？犬的写法很多，这里不是三晋典型的写法罢了。战国老师释图的那个字，大概是从刀者声吧。
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