徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-5-14 20:07

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 15.75pt 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><SPAN lang=EN-US style="LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt"><FONT size=4>这个簋是M1的。那个<FONT face=宋体>铜豆、罍是<SPAN lang=EN-US style="LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">M1017</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">墓的。</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 15.75pt 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-pagination: widow-orphan" align=left><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">(M1017</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">墓铜豆盖内铭</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">“</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">霸伯作大[]宝尊彝其孙孙子子万年永用</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="LINE-HEIGHT: 170%; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt">” )</SPAN></FONT></P>

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-5-14 21:23

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徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-5-14 21:58

<P><FONT size=4>“芮国人喜欢“人性化”,文字有自己的风格,而且喜欢将字形中的“部件”移位。”</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=5>我这句话,说得不妥!</FONT></P>
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徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-5-15 20:15

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 26.25pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">这个<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">芮公簋</B>的入藏年代,也就是<SPAN lang=EN-US>M1</SPAN>的年代,在昭穆之际。<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">芮公簋</B>的制作年代应在昭穆之际或可上溯至康王时代。<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">芮公送给霸邑良马两匹、玉、金的事,</B>就发生在<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">康王</B>至<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">昭穆</B>之际这段时间里。</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; LETTER-SPACING: 0.4pt; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 30pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">《尚书·顾命》:“<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">成王</B>将崩……王不怿。甲子,王乃洮口水。相被冕服,凭玉几。乃同,召太保奭 ,芮伯、彤伯、毕公、卫侯、毛公、师氏、虎臣、百尹、御事。”《文献通考》也有:“成王时,芮伯为司徒,与太保彤伯,毕公、卫侯、毛公同受顾命立<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">康王</B>。”</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 30.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">芮公送给霸邑良马两匹、玉、金。(</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">“</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">内(芮)公舍霸马两玉金用铸簋</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">”</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体">)</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 30pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;; mso-ascii-font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;">《逸周书·卷十》:“<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">穆王</B>思保位惟难,恐贻世羞,欲自警悟……芮伯稽古,作《训纳》。王于善暨,执小臣咸省厥躬,作《芮良夫》。”《正义》谓芮良夫即“芮伯也”。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-5-16 01:11

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 30pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">這件鼎形簋,束頸、垂腹、三柱足,耳下有方胡。從鼎的器形來看,垂腹、柱足,與黃河流域的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">D</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">型Ⅱ式鼎相當,年代在昭王至穆王前後。從簋的器形來看,有三個高足的簋與黃河流域的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">D</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">型Ⅰ、Ⅱ式簋相當,年代在昭王至穆王前後。考慮到霸伯墓地出霸伯銘器的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">M1017</SPAN><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">墓中出現典型的穆王時代的泡釘豆,我們將這件鼎形簋的年代定在昭王至穆王早期比較合適。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 30pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">鑒於此,</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">芮公送給霸邑良馬兩匹、玉、金的事,就發生在<SPAN style="COLOR: black">昭王至穆王早期了</SPAN>。(</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">“</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">內(芮)公舍霸馬兩玉金用鑄簋</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">”</SPAN><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN lang=ZH-TW style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW">)</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><p>[此主题已被 徐伯鸿 在 2011-5-15 17:21:17 编辑过]

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-5-16 04:43

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<P><FONT size=5>《诗•大雅•公刘》:“芮鞫之即”,郑玄笺:“芮之言内也。”</FONT></P>

徐伯鸿 发表于 2011-5-18 04:51

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